Hey! I have very very little in the way of concrit (or intelligence), but here goes:
Like purridot below, I hadn't really thought about this scene and its incongruence with the rest of the film's cinematography and narrative. It's clear that both Bruces were trying to do SOMETHING with Joe and Billy's characters by including these shots, but I'm not sure I can pin down what with any certainty.
It makes sense to me that Joe's suicide was to some extent spontaneous, not to mention alcohol-inspired, but only as spontaneous as that kind of death can be for someone who's toting a gun around for a goodly portion of the preceding days/weeks.
It also makes sense to me from Bruce's/the film's perspective that the acid trip scene would be so loaded with retrospective foreshadowing of Joe's death, because the scene follows the revelation (to Billy et al) that the entire reunion was a scam. At this point, Joe's maybe thinking he's about to lose Billy, and that's eventually a major motivator of the suicide.
As for the technicalities of who's responsible for things like the Joe-the-scarecrow-gets-shot clip ... uh ... maybe film editors are magic?
One possibility it that it’s Bruce McDonald-the-character’s own acid trip. After all, he isn’t seen in any of the shots
I'm not sure what you mean by the first sentence above. Also, it's been a while, but when IS Bruce seen on camera? I can't remember right now.
There are extended shots of Billy’s face as he toys with his cigarette, licking the upright (erect?) knife provocatively (at 1:00:12 for inquiring minds).
ROFL, I can't even read that without going, "GUH." You have GOT to watch this with other fangirls. The collective orgasmic moans are amazing.
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Date: 2007-11-20 06:19 am (UTC)Like
It makes sense to me that Joe's suicide was to some extent spontaneous, not to mention alcohol-inspired, but only as spontaneous as that kind of death can be for someone who's toting a gun around for a goodly portion of the preceding days/weeks.
It also makes sense to me from Bruce's/the film's perspective that the acid trip scene would be so loaded with retrospective foreshadowing of Joe's death, because the scene follows the revelation (to Billy et al) that the entire reunion was a scam. At this point, Joe's maybe thinking he's about to lose Billy, and that's eventually a major motivator of the suicide.
As for the technicalities of who's responsible for things like the Joe-the-scarecrow-gets-shot clip ... uh ... maybe film editors are magic?
One possibility it that it’s Bruce McDonald-the-character’s own acid trip. After all, he isn’t seen in any of the shots
I'm not sure what you mean by the first sentence above. Also, it's been a while, but when IS Bruce seen on camera? I can't remember right now.
There are extended shots of Billy’s face as he toys with his cigarette, licking the upright (erect?) knife provocatively (at 1:00:12 for inquiring minds).
ROFL, I can't even read that without going, "GUH." You have GOT to watch this with other fangirls. The collective orgasmic moans are amazing.