As one of those squeamish animal rights activists, I find the acid trip hard to rewatch, but for you, my dear, *anything*!
I hate watching it too. My normal habit is to watch through the knife-licking bit and then skip ahead. Yeah. I am that shallow.
I wonder (this is not a scholarly wondering, I confess it up front) if film!Bruce and his crew are again manipulating the images of the band for their film's benefit.
If that's not scholarly wondering, I don't know what is...although it's quite possible that I don't. *g* I think it's probably a safe bet that film!Bruce is manipulating the film. What I want to know is: does film!Bruce's manipulation undermine any interpretation about actual!Bruce's intentions for the scene...? Does that make sense? Maybe the scene just reflects film!Bruce's purpose and not the purpose of the actual film. At which point, I sure feel silly. But then, a scene can serve two purposes--both those of film!Bruce and actual!Bruce. The problem is then to figure out where one ends and the other begins, assuming that's possible.
This would be the point where my head explodes.
Is Bucky Dionysus? Dionysus punishes resistance to his cult in various ways, causing people to kill family members in a frenzy and other acts which ultimately lead to a kind of sterility (the opposite of the fertility he represents). He brings both life and death; and in a way, Bucky brought life to Joe through his inspiration, but he also brings about his death, since the revelation that he is alive and well shows Joe's manipulative scheme for what it is, and that is the beginning of the end for Billy getting back with the band, I think.
Yep. I really like the Bucky as Dionysus idea--I might have to expand on that (or, another essay...?). Both lead people to society-threatening revelry, but with sinister aspects that when sobriety is regained it's often accompanied by remorse. I'd very much agree that Bucky's arrival and more specifically his repudiation of Joe, marks the beginning of the end.
Alrighty, I'm not sure I'm making much in the way of sense, and I have zero excuse--it's 11 am. :P
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Date: 2007-11-19 05:02 pm (UTC)I hate watching it too. My normal habit is to watch through the knife-licking bit and then skip ahead. Yeah. I am that shallow.
I wonder (this is not a scholarly wondering, I confess it up front) if film!Bruce and his crew are again manipulating the images of the band for their film's benefit.
If that's not scholarly wondering, I don't know what is...although it's quite possible that I don't. *g* I think it's probably a safe bet that film!Bruce is manipulating the film. What I want to know is: does film!Bruce's manipulation undermine any interpretation about actual!Bruce's intentions for the scene...? Does that make sense? Maybe the scene just reflects film!Bruce's purpose and not the purpose of the actual film. At which point, I sure feel silly. But then, a scene can serve two purposes--both those of film!Bruce and actual!Bruce. The problem is then to figure out where one ends and the other begins, assuming that's possible.
This would be the point where my head explodes.
Is Bucky Dionysus? Dionysus punishes resistance to his cult in various ways, causing people to kill family members in a frenzy and other acts which ultimately lead to a kind of sterility (the opposite of the fertility he represents). He brings both life and death; and in a way, Bucky brought life to Joe through his inspiration, but he also brings about his death, since the revelation that he is alive and well shows Joe's manipulative scheme for what it is, and that is the beginning of the end for Billy getting back with the band, I think.
Yep. I really like the Bucky as Dionysus idea--I might have to expand on that (or, another essay...?). Both lead people to society-threatening revelry, but with sinister aspects that when sobriety is regained it's often accompanied by remorse. I'd very much agree that Bucky's arrival and more specifically his repudiation of Joe, marks the beginning of the end.
Alrighty, I'm not sure I'm making much in the way of sense, and I have zero excuse--it's 11 am. :P